Nice Price or Crack Pipe: Rare Twin Turbo French Hatch Edition

"Amoore100" (amoore100) 06/23/2016 at 15:45 • Filed to: NP or CP, Renault, Safrane

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So, because it’s summer, I’ve been spending way too much time on the computer doing useless things and today I stumbled across something both useless and rare...

The Renault Safrane was an executive car that Renault released in ‘92 to go up against the XM and Pug 605. While the car ended up being not that popular in terms of sales, there was one noteworthy variant that made its way out of the showrooms and onto the roads, albeit in very small numbers. Yes, it’s the Safrane Biturbo, an AWD variant powered by the Alpine A610's biturbo V6 and tuned by famed German firms Hartge and Irmscher. Only 806 were ever made, so does that make !!!error: Indecipherable SUB-paragraph formatting!!! a nice price or crack pipe at €18K EUR ($20K USD)?

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Opposite Locksmith > Amoore100 06/23/2016 at 15:56

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Is this the one that they meant to be an auto but the kept shredding through them?

Opposite Locksmith > Amoore100 06/23/2016 at 15:56

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Also you gotta post stats man

MultiplaOrgasms > Amoore100 06/23/2016 at 15:58

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Actually the A610 had a single turbo engine, albeit similar in spec. It was 250hp (probably slightly more) while the Safrane was 262hp.

FSI - alcohol enthusiast with a car problem > Amoore100 06/23/2016 at 16:00

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I love the Safrane Biturbo. But not at the price with the mileage

Amoore100 > Opposite Locksmith 06/23/2016 at 16:01

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Fine.

264 hp

269 lb-ft

4112 lb curb wt

0-62 7.5 sec

155 mph top speed

what else?

Amoore100 > Opposite Locksmith 06/23/2016 at 16:01

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I think it might be.

Opposite Locksmith > Amoore100 06/23/2016 at 16:03

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What is the best hat type and another apparent the accompany such a fine vehicle

Amoore100 > MultiplaOrgasms 06/23/2016 at 16:07

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Eh, close enough. ;) Anyways, the Safrane must have had smaller turbos because +12 hp seems awfully paltry for having one more turbocharger.

MultiplaOrgasms > Opposite Locksmith 06/23/2016 at 16:07

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Sounds more like the Omega V8 to me but this one had to be manual because at the time nobody manufactured transverse AWD automatic transmissions strong enough.

Amoore100 > FSI - alcohol enthusiast with a car problem 06/23/2016 at 16:08

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Yeah, $20K seem more like something these will fetch in ten years’ time (if not more), definitely not now.

MultiplaOrgasms > Amoore100 06/23/2016 at 16:08

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Something something less Turbo-lag

Amoore100 > Opposite Locksmith 06/23/2016 at 16:09

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Knowing my fashion sense, you’ll have to make that judgement.

Opposite Locksmith > MultiplaOrgasms 06/23/2016 at 16:09

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I remember the car I was thinking about being tt’d tho

MultiplaOrgasms > Opposite Locksmith 06/23/2016 at 16:14

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Not to say it wasn’t the case here, but the Omega V8 is the one I know to have shred automatic transmissions, which is odd considering the LS1/4L60E combo.

FSI - alcohol enthusiast with a car problem > Amoore100 06/23/2016 at 16:21

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It’s in an odd situation; it’s certainly special but not as well known as the E34 M5 or Lotus Carlton. It is/will be a collector’s item for sure but it’s not really that desirable. But I’d love to own one nonetheless.

Amoore100 > MultiplaOrgasms 06/23/2016 at 16:21

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Something something shoulda supercharged it instead

RallyWrench > Amoore100 06/23/2016 at 16:25

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OH MY GOD I WANT IT

Amoore100 > RallyWrench 06/23/2016 at 16:33

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Me too but the price is a wee bit rich for a 20 year old French hatchback.

Amoore100 > FSI - alcohol enthusiast with a car problem 06/23/2016 at 16:34

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I think it’s closer to the Carlton because more limited in production; also, it makes me drool just thinking of a garage with a Safrane Biturbo and a Carlton in it :3

FSI - alcohol enthusiast with a car problem > Amoore100 06/23/2016 at 16:41

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Oh boy those two together would make a fantastic dream garage. Just the thought of biturbo sedans with manual transmission give me funny feelings below the belt. Too bad that they are ultimately unreliable:/

Amoore100 > FSI - alcohol enthusiast with a car problem 06/23/2016 at 16:47

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Yeah, you’d need like a Saab 9000 CS Aero to reliably DD...oh, wait....

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > MultiplaOrgasms 06/23/2016 at 16:47

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We’ve never had a 4L60/700R4 make it to 100k miles. It’s a garbage transmission from the factory.

RallyWrench > Amoore100 06/23/2016 at 16:50

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Yeah, but I still voted NP because what else can you get with those bonafides for $20k? I mean, other than an A310...

FSI - alcohol enthusiast with a car problem > Amoore100 06/23/2016 at 16:51

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The holy trinity of unreliability.. lol. But at least one of those cars should be working correctly while the others are in for repairs.

MultiplaOrgasms > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies 06/23/2016 at 16:54

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Garbage trans in a garbage car paired to a garbage engine.

Amoore100 > FSI - alcohol enthusiast with a car problem 06/23/2016 at 17:13

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Or just get like a V90 or LS400 to actually move around.

4muddyfeet - bare knuckle with an EZ30 > Amoore100 06/23/2016 at 17:43

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Jeez Louise (Luiz?) I love the Safrane, but that's crack pipe all night long.

Amoore100 > 4muddyfeet - bare knuckle with an EZ30 06/23/2016 at 17:45

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Even if it’s twin turbo, manual transmission, and is one of less than 800 now?

RT > Amoore100 06/23/2016 at 19:20

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Lovely car. I prefer the Pug and Citroen myself but for performance alone this probably has them beaten.

Plus it’s a full size French car with a hatch and two turbos. Me want.

Amoore100 > RT 06/23/2016 at 19:45

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Yep, nothing beats a Safrane Biturbo for French four-door speed as well as rarity. Also, extra points for being the spiritual predecessor to the Avantime and Vel Satis!